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Type-A Wellness: Balancing Ambition, Health, and True Fulfilment

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Balancing Ambition and Wellbeing: How Luxury Wellness Can Help Type-A High Achievers Avoid Burnout

If you’re a driven, high-performing entrepreneur who’s ticking all the “health” boxes but still feels exhausted, stuck, or on the edge of burnout, this episode is for you.

In this powerful conversation, I’m joined by Kristy Garnett, holistic living coach, clinical herbalist, and advocate for redefining wellness to include luxury. After battling mini-strokes, debilitating migraines, and years of unexplained health struggles, Kristy uncovered the root causes of her suffering and transformed her life by integrating science, herbalism, and soul-nourishing practices.

We dive into:

  • Why luxury is the missing piece in holistic living (and how it’s more about soul alignment than exclusivity)
  • The truth about Type-A burnout and why doing “all the right things” isn’t always enough
  • Soul care vs. self-care — and why the difference could change your health and happiness
  • How sensory experiences and herbal medicine can help high achievers recharge without losing their edge
  • The mindset shifts that help you balance ambition, health, and personal fulfilment
  • Why prevention should be a bigger focus in wellness (and what to do when mainstream medicine only offers quick fixes)

Kristy’s unique blend of scientific expertise, intuitive coaching, and practical strategies will inspire you to create a version of wellness that works with your personality — not against it.

Whether you’re chasing big business goals, managing a busy family, or just trying to feel more energised, you’ll walk away with tools to slow burnout before it starts and thrive on your own terms.

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Welcome to the Tarryn Reeves Show, the podcast for elite entrepreneurs, visionary leaders, and high impact CEOs who are ready to grow their brand, amplify their message, and build a legacy. I'm your host, Tarryn Reeves, multiple international bestselling author, publishing strategist and founder of Automatic Authority Publishing and Press House. Each week we dive into powerful conversations with trailblazing entrepreneurs and change makers who are using storytelling. To scale their business and impact. So grab your favorite drink, settle in, and get ready for a dose of inspiration, strategy, and the truth behind what it really takes to turn your wisdom into wealth. Today I have Kristy Garnett on the show who is a holistic living coach and clinical herbalist before stepping into her role as a. Sought after holistic living coach and clinical herbalist, Kristi was ignoring every warning sign her body was sending. That sounds pretty familiar. Battling many strokes and debilitating migraines. She found herself trapped in a cycle of unexplained health struggles until she made it her mission to uncover not just the solution, but the root cause of her suffering determined to heal naturally. Kristi embarked in a journey of trial error and deep self-discovery, learning how to partner with her body and address both the physical and emotional blocks holding her back. Through this transformation, she freed herself from limitations and learned how to thrive on her own terms. Since 2014, Kristy has been empowering high achievers to unlock their full potential without burnout, restriction, or sacrificing luxury. Using her expertise in herbalism holistic health and intuitive coaching, she helps ambitious individuals achieve even greater success while feeling deeply aligned, energized, and fulfilled. Kristi, welcome to the Tara Show. Hi there. It's so lovely to be here. Thank you for having me. It's amazing to have you, and I can't wait to dive into all things luxury wellness with you because it's not something that people often associate wellness and luxury together. When I think of luxury, I'm like, oh, you know, like a fine wine or some really nice food, and then so often. In the wellness space, we're told you can't eat Britain and you can't have this, and you can't have that. I'm like, but what about the pasta? So tell me more about this unique perspective that you have on luxury in the wellness space. Well, absolutely, because what I see that has been happening over the years in the wellness space is there's been a lot of buzzwords like holistic. But if you think about holistic, it really drops out when it comes to anything like pleasureful, joyful, luxurious, because a lot of these things don't taste good. And if you have to limit gluten, like what? What do you do then? And so luxury is the missing piece in holistic living and healing. And so I think I wanna flip that on everybody's head and say, what does luxury actually mean? Because for so long it has meant exclusivity. It's a branding tool. It's about being competitive and elite. But that's not true luxury and that's not holistic living if you're not really in tune with what luxury is. Yeah. Okay. So how is your approach different? Because I know that you're a clinical herbalist and you're coaching as high achievers. Yes. How is your approach different to the, this is gonna sound really blunt, but hey, it's me, like the bazillion other coaches in the space. Well, first and foremost, I really do believe that luxury is the missing piece. Hmm. So I'm not here to tell you if you love that glass of wine at the end of the night and you know that you're having a reaction to it, we find something alternative to it. It's not about deprivation, it's about what it is inside of you that you are looking for. Yes. So. There are a lot of coaches, and for a very long time I did not want to be identified as a coach because I was so into, well, it has to be this way and it has to be that way, and we have to have scientific research behind it and clinical expressions and. Knowledge. And what I really came out to find is I am a coach. I am an empowerment coach. I help people find their own path, and I have a scientific background to boots. So it's the merging of the intuition and the knowledge, that education piece. And so that is what makes me very different is because I have learned for myself how to bridge that. What people would say was woo woo or out there, all of that stuff, and how to make it align and run seamlessly with the education and the knowledge. Hmm. Yeah. Now we were having a bit of a chuckle before we pressed record on this episode about type A personalities and high achievers. Now I will put my hand up and say, I am like an excessive type A personality. Can you tell us why do people like me often struggle with burnout despite doing all the right things for our health? If you like. So the first thing that I always say to people like us is everyone wants a type A when they want something done. I love that you said that. I was laughing yesterday to my partner. Because he had this business idea, and literally within two and a half hours, I had done competitor research. I had written up some copy. I had broken down all the offers with competitive pricing. I had a flyer written and delegated to my team. I had an online booking system set up with cannibal QR codes, and he's just looking at me. He goes, how did you do that in two and a half hours? I was like, I don't know. I just got the idea and then it happened. Exactly. Exactly. And that's the thing about being a type A. So I always say there's three reasons that you might be a type A and how we get there. Mm-hmm. And. Then doing all the right things, right? The, I call the three P's, parenting, personality, and physiology. So some of us are just wired to be productive. Hmm. Some of us are just wired that way, and so a lot of type a's are wired to get a lot of things done. Then we might have a parenting stuff, a block underneath that, which says, okay, we just gotta work hard, learn a new skill, push faster, harder, stronger, ignore that. And then the personality, maybe you just like to be productive. Mm-hmm. And so I always want people to do what is best for them. But what happens with Type A. They're on the way to burnout is they think they can work their way out of it. Right? Yeah. You think you can beat the burnout, right? Yeah. It's like if I just run a bit faster, maybe burnout won't catch up. Exactly. And on the opposite side of the spectrum, I work with, I work with two different types of people, the Chronic Dreamers. Mm-hmm. And the type A. So what I often do is I find the chronic dreamer in the Type A. Right? Mm-hmm. What are you dreaming about? Well, you're helping your husband, so obviously you went in two hours. You're like, this feels great. And that's your way of dreaming, but it requires space. Yes. And everyone around you has to kind of get on board.'cause when you're on, you're on. Yep. Like get outta the way. That's right. I'm like, what's wrong with all of you? Why aren't you doing this? And they were like, we're watching TV, mom. And you're getting more and more this, more and more riled up. Mm-hmm. And that feeds your adrenaline and it feeds the chemistry that's happening. And then all of a sudden you handed to em and then later. He doesn't do anything with it. What did you look? Oh my gosh. Don't even say that. I would have a heart attack. I'd be like, we're handing out these flyers. Off we go. Everybody's walking down the road. That's right. Oh my goodness. Yeah. So you're doing all the right things because it's based on the mental pathways. It's also based on your physiology and what you've trained your body to do. So we often have to retrain that without losing who you are. Mm-hmm. Because like I said, everyone wants a Type A. Yeah. Hopefully they want you at a party as well, not just to play with a party. That's right. That's right. So finding that happy balance between the chronic dreamer and the Type A personality. Without changing who somebody is and how they wired to be.'cause this is kind of what I'm picturing with our conversation in my head. It's like you are a car and you like you're a race car and you're going a thousand miles an hour. Eventually that car is gonna need maintenance, it's gonna need an oil change, it's gonna need nutrition, it's gonna need rest. It's gonna need all of those things. How do you work with clients to balance them out, if you like to give them those little checks? Right. Well, the first thing that we have to think about is what are you, if you're taking your analogy of the car Hmm. What are you actually, are you a souped up car that you just put tons of things on Yeah. To make yourself go faster, drinking coffee. Red Bulls like, are like, what are you doing to make that car go? Mm. Right. Mm-hmm. And are you doing it in the way that is right for you? Hmm. So sometimes when I talk to people, people often ask, well, how do we know the signs of burnout before we get burnt out? And that's kind of what you're saying, like, how do we get. What do we feed this car if it's going a thousand miles an hour? Well, not everybody needs a rest in the same way that other people do. If I told you, okay, now go and meditate, you'd be like, gosh, five minutes max. And even then it's not very good it exactly, but if I said, go for a walk, it can be as fast as you want for as long as you want, but no headphones allowed. You'd be willing to do that. Yeah, true. Yep. And that is also a meditative state, so maybe that's how you refresh. Maybe that's how you rebuild. Maybe that's your nutrition. It's really, really customized for each person. And that's the other thing about coaching. A lot of coaches. Do you know, oh, well just take coffee. Just do ashwagandha. Just do this. Yeah. That's not how it works. When we're working with Type A, now I can say a type A probably needs to figure out where their cycle of rest is. Mm-hmm. But not, okay, now you gotta go and lay on a beach for four hours, you'll, you'll lose your mind. Yeah. That's not gonna be healthy for you. So I always say how you can tell if let's say you're the car, how you can tell as a person. When you're on that road is now everybody's always like, oh, well, brain fog or vitality or, or low energy, or, I can't remember things. Those are common, but you're already that, right? Yeah. Um, but if it feels good to keep going, that's a flashing red light on your car that's like, oh, I feel better when I keep going. Mm-hmm. And I feel worse when I stop. Mm. If everyone and every. Facet of your life is asking you for a favor. You have to kind of think about that. And if people around you keep telling you to rest, yeah, that's where the car lights are starting to flash. Those are your flashing lights, and so we gotta take a moment and reevaluate how fast you are pushing yourself. Yeah. Yep. Well, the good news then is that we can balance, ambition, and the type A personality without sacrificing wellbeing, right? Correct. So that, that's amazing. Now, let's talk self-care as well, because it's this buzzword that annoys the hell out of me, especially when it comes to being a woman, right? Mm-hmm. Because they go, oh, uh, self care, take a shower. Or as a mum, go to the toilet on your own. It's like, ah, that's not self-care. That's a basic human need. Yep. So let's talk about self-care and, and go even deeper into that soul care if you like.'cause I know that this is something that you speak about. What's the difference between you, between the two? So, self-care is a list that you check off. So I went to the shower, or I had a shower by myself, or I booked that massage. Okay. So I should be okay. It's a list that you go down and you say, oh, well I had time to read my book. Soul Care is what you do and what you dream about doing if you had time. Mm. Yeah. That's what you have to give yourself. That's what you have to be protective of. And as a really busy person and as a Type A 'cause that's what we're speaking to today. Yeah. Um, the way to find out what your soul care, the trick to find out what your soul care link is and what really fills you up is. Identified through your five senses. So if when you're daydreaming about what you would do on your free time, it's like dancing or going to a concert. So you would gravitate towards something audio. Yeah, so birds or anything like that. If it's about wrapping yourself into a blanket or feeling the sun on your skin, then it's touch and then we keep going down that or smelling. So before we got on here, like you obviously were in two different sides of the planet. I put, uh, essential oil on because part of what. Feeds my soul is a great smell. You can't see that, but it, it sets me up for success. Yeah. And I know these little things sound so trivial, but it really does matter because I've taken the time to feed what is important to me and the clinical side of it. It's grounding. Yeah. Yep, absolutely. I'm a big fan of smells. All sorts of smells, like seriously, and if I pack in my job as a publisher, I reckon I could get a job as a human sniffer dog at the airports because my nose is unreal. So I love. Sensory stuff and talking about sensory stuff because it does amaze me and I see it with my kids as well. Like if they're having a meltdown, just something sensory, whether it's rain. Sounds like both my daughter and I sleep too. Rain sounds not gentle, like lovely calming rain. No, it's a full on like hurricane thunderstorm. I don't know why, but it works for us, you know? And essential oils and a weighted blanket. So all of those sorts of sensors. Why do you think that? Sense those senses are so important to human wellbeing. Well, that's luxury. That's the luxury I'm talking about. Yeah. But one thing that aligned you back to your center. Right. And so all of your senses are apart and signaling to the rest of your body and to your, the synapses in your brain, oh, what do I have to do to make this rebalance? Yeah. And so when you work with your senses, this is the luxury piece. This is the soul care piece. And we get so far away from that. So earlier we were talking about coffee. You were like, I love the smell of coffee, love the smell of coffee. That makes sense because it's a very grounding smell. I always tell my clients, if you want people to leave your house, put a pot of coffee on. Really? Yeah. Try it next time. There's somebody waiting too long, you're just hanging on a bit too long. Yeah. You just put this because the smell is more important than the actual taste and the caffeine.'cause it kind of grounds you down. It kind of. Recenters you and you go off. So when you know these things, it realigns your body. It gets you into a place of luxury. Not to go back to where we started, but that is a luxurious moment to realign yourself and then you can move forward. So you found the trick to keep. Going to help your personality, to help your physiology do what you need to do, which is publish, have a successful publishing company. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm curious now, okay, so as a woman, I get all of this right, like the essential oils and the smells. Like before we hopped on, I had, I sprayed myself with it like an essential oil blend because I like it. I called it the feel good spray. And it's just kind of shifting that mentality. Just a blend of oils that I put made up myself, you know? Yeah. The coffee's on. Um, I had it in my morning shower, that sort of thing. I gave everybody a little cuddle. As a woman, I get all of that, like there's essential oils on my desk, there's a candle, there's plants, because that fills my soul out. Is it different for men, do you think, because of how society kind of expects them to act? Yes and no. Mm. It's not different in the sense of they have to find their secret code, right? Mm-hmm. Whatever that is for them, it is different because they're single focused. Yeah. So I love my male clients because literally it's like, you know what? Do you wanna go and do that? They're like, yes. They go and do it. And I always say, women need to take a page out of their book. Yeah. And yeah. Start to say they're not gonna wait to go to the bathroom. It's true, they don't, and it blows my mind. I'm like, I just waited five hours to go to the loo. Like literally. And he's like, no, I need to go now. I'm like, yeah. Well, that's nice. They're not gonna be like, okay, on the, on the highway we're, we have a two hour drive on the highway. You know what, we don't need to go to the restaurant. Like if we get a, then all the kids are gonna wanna snack and then we get outta the car, they're gonna be like, I'm pulling over. Yeah. I'm the bathroom. Like, yeah. So it's different and it's the same. Yes. So they can find what speaks to them. And they can use essential oils I like, or the cologne or whatever it is that their jam is, and they can find it in their own way. Maybe it's heavy metal music, it doesn't really matter. Mm-hmm. But it's different in the sense that you don't get, you don't have to convince them to take care of their bodies. Yeah. Sometimes you do. But generally speaking, if they have a need, it's right. Then it's right now they're hungry. Yeah, that's true. So you just, do you think that's just because of the way their biology is wired? I think estrogen does a lot, yeah. Of things. For us and to us, that's, that's a good way of putting it for and to us. Yeah, so I think there is some physiology there. I think there is a social construct of how men are. I think it's all of those things that's holistic, right. Yeah. Yep. So when we're talking holistic wellness in your kind of vibe, your space mm-hmm. What does that look like? Obviously we've got essential oils, we've got soul care, we've got self-care. We've obviously got a little bit of mindset in there as well. What about like your herbs? Tell me about how the whole approach comes together. So for me, my background was very western medicine and very, um, plant physiology focused and very lab focused. And I always liked that nerdy part, but I loved plants. I've always loved plants. Mm-hmm. And when it was time for me to transition into something that was more holistic coaching and clinical herbalism, I. Based everything around plants and plant health and what to do with plants and herbs and supplements. So that's my first love. Yeah. And so that's where I would go every time, however. When I look at a plant, I look at a plant differently because in Western culture, it's the same as prescriptions, right? Oh, I have a bruise. I'm gonna use Arnica to fix that bruise. Mm-hmm. Right? Or I have congestion in my sinuses, so I'm gonna use, let's say, orange, PLT. To kinda get rid of it, right? Yeah. So that's a one-to-one a cause and effect, and we find that, but I like to use the whole plant. So the energy around the plant, the energy around your body, that's where the intuition comes in, and what herb to use in what dose and in what way for you. Hmm. Yeah. Amazing. And how did you end up in this space? What's the journey for you? Where did you come from? What was that like for you and what made you so passionate about luxury wellness? Yeah, so as a kid I puked a lot. Okay. Good to know. I hope you grew out of that. No, not until I was 21. Really? Yeah. Everywhere. Interesting everywhere. So it was the eighties. I had a nervous stomach. Nervous stomach, that's what they said. And then eventually I had allergy shots and everything under the sun and I couldn't eat anything and it just kind of moved on. But when I was in grad school, so what they eventually figured out was abnormal migraines that triggered TIAs. So many strokes. And during, yeah, that sounds extreme. Well, sometimes I forget that I need to pause there. Huh? I mean, I grew up as a teenager and when all the hormones started to kick in, I used to get horrible migraines to the point where the only way that the pain would get relieved is by vomiting chain. Had to get that bad that I threw up, and then it was like a pressure release and I was absolutely fine after that and I grew out of them. But for yours to cause mini strokes, that sounds horrific. So. I mean, it wasn't pleasant. I'd be worried if you said it was, I'd be like, you need to go see someone about that. But it's like if you're a type A, it's like people being like, how can you do all that? Or Why don't you slow down when you're in the middle of your life doing it, it's your life. Yeah. So I probably had migraines. Since I was like eight or so, I probably had that the way my body dealt with it. Well, first of all, in eastern medicine, your first brain is your gut. Mm-hmm. So now I know I had a lot of gut problems. Yeah. And that was triggering some migraines. But what I also now understand is when I was doing all of that, I had pressure, I had stress, and I went to the ER and they gave me a typical migraine medication. Mm-hmm. And that flipped. It flipped something. And I have abnormal migraines. So the typical migraine would not. It just did not go well. And so that's how, thank God they did because that was a big enough mini stroke that I was in the ER for. Yeah. And then that just set me down a path that really opened my mind to other ways of healing and other ways of doing things. Yeah. Amazing. And what did that look like? Did you meet someone who specialized in Eastern Medicine or. Did you just do your own research being a Type A and be like, I'm figuring this shit out like it's happening. I think there's something to divine timing and I think there's something to. People coming into your life. So yeah, I was wheeled in at like two in the morning in the ICU and, 'cause I was young, I was 23, maybe 24. Yeah. And it was a teaching hospital, which was great. And the woman the next, the bed next to me the next day, which would've been somebody or should have been somebody very elderly, was like maybe 20 years older than me and she was from New York City and she like. Just buck the system. Like everything they diagnosed her with, she was like, that's not it. I have lead issues. That's not it. I'm gonna talk to my acupuncturist. That's not it. And I grew up in a very small rural town. I was driven to go to school and do all that, and she just seemed so wild to me. It was, yeah, early two thousands she was doing yoga and going to retreats and doing all that stuff. So she introduced me after everything got diagnosed and I looked at the neurologist,'cause I had a background in biology. Hmm. And I said, why is this happening? What are we doing? And he was so great and he said, we don't know. Manage your stress and don't be on birth control. Mm. Called the lady who had gone her own way. We stayed in touch. We, she left and was discharged and I was like, I don't know what to do. And she put me in touch with all of these people and I went to see a Korean acupuncturist and he tried to do like chi on me and like feel and energy and I was like. I have no idea what's happening. Yeah. But I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. I want to feel better and I am going to feel better and that just sent me on this journey. Yeah. You got pushed to that point where there was no other option but you to change. Yeah. Now and I'm glad I had it when I was young, 'cause I faced my mortality. I faced the fact that there's other ways to do things and now I have merged that so that I can work with people like. Me who were, was a little bit skeptical of things. Yeah. Amazing. Now you said something interesting before that tied in with a podcast that I listened to the other day. So have you heard of the Diary of a CEO podcast? Yes. Okay. One of my most favorite podcasts ever. I love it. That's kind of, that's part of my soul. My soul carers listening to nerdy podcasts like that because I just find them so interesting. Learning new things, and there was a woman on there and she was talking about birth control. And how no woman should be on birth control. And it was a really interesting conversation about how, yes, birth control has allowed us to grow careers. It's allowed us to do way more than we ever thought possible because now we can plan exactly when and if we get pregnant, but there's a very dark side to that as well. What's your opinion on birth control? So I really believe that we have to own our own choices. Mm-hmm. Right? So if I want a career, if I want to choose the partner to have a baby with, I have to be responsible in the way that is healthiest for me. And so whether it's birth control, whether it's any kind of hormonal. Augmentation, that's the wrong word. Yeah. But you know what I mean. Yeah. Any during menopause or when you're a teenager or whatever, I don't feel across the board that anybody should just be broad brushed into, oh, you have heavy periods. Here's a birth control pill. Mm-hmm. Oh, you, I think it's choice. Now. For me, I had mini strokes and everybody. Nobody would give me a birth control pill, even if I like asked for it. Yeah. But what's my alternative? Right? Yeah. What is my alternative? Is it to have my tubes tied? Mm-hmm. They won't do that at a certain age. Is it? To do the rhythm method? What? So everything has to be looked at before we say 100% yes. Or 100% no. Mm-hmm. Now. I think it's really important that you talk to your medical team now. That can include a herbalist if your doctors are open to it. Yeah. Or if you are working to, but just owning what it is you want in your life. Yeah. And not having it prescribed to you just because Yeah. I don't love that. Yeah. Uh, everything's a choice. And I think a lot of people fail to realize that, that everything in your life is a choice, and you have the power to choose differently or to go on an exploration and have people doing Korean qi on you and then go and like, what's gonna happen to me too, like if I do get pregnant, like, is that a high ri? Like where do we go? Yeah. And what is the answer? And this is the luxury piece to not have sex. To, to have a partner that's willing to do an alternative. Like there's so many options. Yeah. But people don't wanna look at the options because we don't have time or mm-hmm. It won't happen to us or it doesn't matter. So I think you need to be cautious. I think we all need to be cautious when we're going on birth control. Yeah. Because there's so many of them too. Like, yeah, there is Now stop at one. Like if something isn't working and you choose birth control, be the squeaky wheel. Find something that does work. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And something that I see that's really interesting in Western medicine, because I've had my own health problems ongoing and I know that my doctor, she's literally waiting for my thyroid to fail. Yeah. I'm like, oh yeah. Why are you practicing medicine this way? Like, don't take my blood. Tell me I'm too thin to eat more and to come back in a month. I'm like, first of all, I can tell you I eat more than your entire family put together. Like I am a tiny, tiny woman, but I eat like seven truckers haven't eaten for three days in one meal. And to have a medical professional going, I'll just eat more and come back. I'm like, it's clearly not working. There is something else wrong. Why do you think that Western medicine is so hell bent? I don't know if it's the same in in America, but definitely here in Australia. So hell bent on treatment rather than prevention because that makes no sense to me. If you know there's an issue, if you know there's a warning light on, why are we not doing something about it? Well, I think that's. An excellent question, and I think that it's a system issue, right? Mm-hmm. Like a, a systemic system issue. I think that most doctors don't have time. Yeah. They might want to. They really, I do believe that they have well-meaning and good intentions. Right. Of course. But they don't have time to figure out, so like someone like me, it's like, okay, what are your labs? What have the doctors said? Have you always had this appetite? Or did it switch after your second baby or did it? That whole history is really important for figuring out the preventative methods. Yeah, I have a couple of clients that cannot put on weight. And to be honest with you, it's wonderful when we have 10 extra pounds and it's like, okay, well why did they say to eat this and not this? And I was like, because. They're doing all the right things. Mm-hmm. And they're following something that works for the average person, and you are outside the average guaranteed that they're waiting for your thyroid to fail, or they wanna zap it and then put you on a medication, which is, and I've already said that's not happening. She's. You're gonna get really sick. And I'm like, well, so be it. I'll figure it out. But like, we're not doing that. And that's a choice, obviously. I mean, I could just go, yeah, okay, cool. I'll just follow along with your little zappy. Zap. Zap. Well, that's not gonna happen because that's not who I am. Right. That's a technical term. I said it too, zap it. You zappy. Zapp it. It's done. That's right. That's right. They can use it. But you're right, it is a systemic issue because I've just had major ankle surgery and I was at the doctor's the other day and. The nurse called her and she's like, oh, so and so said that they need another appointment. He's like, yeah, slaughter in for eight minutes. I'm like, what are you gonna do in eight minutes? By the time you've said hello, they've sat down, they've told you what's wrong. I'm like, there's at least four minutes gone. Then you take the blood pressure and the temperature, and then you write the script. I'm like, how are these people? And I feel sorry for them because I don't think. If any of them going through med school thought, oh, this is gonna be the dream, you know? Right. Pumping out people in numbers. I think it's a very sad, systemic issue, but I'm so glad that there are people like you where we can go for options and we can go for that deeper exploration if we choose to. Yes. And a lot of people get to me after they've had the eight minutes. Mm-hmm. And the eight minutes. And the eight minutes. And what Giving to eight minutes. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Exactly. Yeah. And they want more and they want something different and they want a fresh look because we're putting together a podcast. Yeah. That hopefully people resonate with and love and there's depth to it. Yes. When we're all talking about something that is important, imagine if everybody had an hour with the doctor that they resonated with the most. Mm. Right. Yeah. That would be a totally different experience. Yes. Yep. Absolutely. And speaking of things like that, let's talk mental health as well. Like there are a thousand counselors, psychologists, whatever it is, alternative coaches on the scene. Yep. But until you find that person that you resonate with, that your energy settles with and is aligned with, and I used to be really, really woo. I'm not anymore, but there are some simple things that you can't ignore. You just can't. If you just know when that's your person, you know when you fit after a few words, whether that's happening to find somebody like that when you either have counselor or, or a herbalist, or a doctor or a teacher, whatever it is that you're needing at that time is just the most beautiful gold that somebody can have. Absolutely. Yeah. Don't settle is what I'm saying. Like find your, don't give up and just go. It's too hard. There are people who you will align with. Can create amazing results for you. And that ties back into luxury. Hmm. That ties back into soul care. Yes. That ties back into this concept. I always say, people know in their head, they know in their heart, and they know in their gut. And true alignment is when, you know, in all three, and that's what you just referred to, is that, oh yeah, this is my person. Like I can. They get me, I get them. You know? Yeah. A lot of times people get themselves talked out of that. Yeah. That feeling, that knowing, they're like, this doesn't quite feel right, but I already paid and I'm already invested. I've already spoke to them, so. Yes. Sometimes you have to pivot. Sometimes you have to endure, but then sometimes you have to pivot. Yeah, and I love this part of the conversation because it's so much of why I do what I do. So I own a publishing company. I work specifically with entrepreneurs to write. Nonfiction books that act as lead generators and help them grow their business and build authority, right? But the way that we write isn't like some textbook. It's a very real raw and vulnerable piece of that entrepreneur, that professional, that change maker that comes through in the book. Why do we do that? Because when people read that book, they can immediately identify on a subconscious level and sometimes it becomes conscious. This is my person. So when you can recognize yourself in somebody else's story, the way that they speak, their sense of humor, what they like to do on the weekend, their challenges, their drive, what they do, and don't like, the fact that they like the smell of coffee. Maybe you like the smell of coffee, like those sorts of things. And I think it is such a powerful way of being human that just cuts away all that noise of social media and overwhelm of choice where you can just pick up a book and go. Yes, I love this person. They're my person. And then you go and follow them or no, I hate this person. Absolutely not moving forward. And that's an awesome way to be, to be able to, to self weed like that. You know what I find so great about you is you've openly said you were very woo at one point. Yeah. And you're not so anymore. But it's no different than my experience too. You know, you go from one side to the other and then you find what is balanced, balance you and being very woo. Although it can be very fun. You need the structure. You need the structure. So how to speak that you can speak in whatever term you want and in the creativity that you are bringing forward in your publishing company and to your clients with the structure that a book provides. Mm-hmm. So, yep. It used to drive me mad, so I used to do business coaching before I opened the publishing company. It used to drive me mad. I used to attract, 'cause I had very woo woo branding. I had a very woo woo business name. I called myself an intuitive business coach 'cause I was in that space of my life. Right? Right. But I used to attract very woo woo people. And now there is nothing wrong with WOOWOO people, let me be very clear. But I used to attract a lot of. People who were dreaming of being an entrepreneur, and they'd be like, I'm just gonna create this like Crystal Bridge and I'm gonna manifest $10,000 by next week. And I'm like, um, no, you are not. And they honestly would be genuinely surprised when they would show up and they'll be like, oh, I didn't make any money this week. I'm really stressed. I'm like, okay, well did you do what we spoke about? Like you are gonna do this, this, this, and this. They're like, oh no. And I'm like, well, yeah. And I just ended up shutting that part of the business down because I just got so frustrated and I honestly felt bad taking people's money when I was like. I know that what I'm giving you works, but you have to action it and you can't force someone to action it. So I was like, this is my ticket outta here. I don't feel good and in alignment anymore. And that was kind of my journey through that. But I wanna know if someone is listening to this or watching this, Kristy, who feels exhausted, stuck, like they're constantly on the hamster wheel, chasing that success and dreaming those dreams, but never feeling truly fulfilled. What's the first step that you'd recommend they take? Take a pause, like whether it's 15 minutes, five minutes, an hour, whatever time you have. If you're sitting in your car, take a pause and do a reflection back to last 3, 5, 10 years. Mm. And is this a pattern in my life? Does this happen to me fairly frequently? When I say fairly frequently, I remember four separate times in my whole life that this has happened. Yeah. Where I just couldn't get off it and then I quit my life and I moved to Canada. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of from experience. Yes. Or, oh, the last time I had this, I was pregnant, or that's the first step. Mm-hmm. Take a pause. Yeah. So in a VA, figure out if this is a pattern and if it is a pattern. What then find the right support. Write what you were talking about, find the right support. It could be a friend. Oftentimes your friends and family aren't the right support. Mm-hmm. Just because they have their own filters and they have their own fears and all of that. But what you had just said is find the people that resonate with you and you know, let's say, so one of the things that's interesting about what you just said about your old. Business is, those are my chronic dreamers. Hmm. But my chronic dream dreamers are trapped on that hamster wheel. Yeah. They don't have, they, they weren't fostered, they didn't foster the creative side. They didn't, they had. So much structure that they don't know how to get past it. So for someone that can hear me speaking or you speaking, that's the second piece. Mm-hmm. Find the right support and it can be in the form of online or private coaching, or customize, or maybe it is a doctor, but that is where you have to be relentless. Where is the support that works for you? Yeah. Yep. I love that. I honestly believe it does take a village to do anything, anything worthwhile. And this is coming from a massive introvert loaner, like, I like nothing better than being on my own. I'm like, I don't want people like, no, but it does, it takes a team. I couldn't do in my business what I do without my team. No, and I, and the other piece to this too is where are your strengths? And if you know where your strengths are, you then surround yourself by the people that have the strengths that aren't yours. Absolutely. And that makes a great team. And so if you are a type A, then you have to have somebody in your corner that can advocate to, for you to relax, or not even relax, but get better health. Alignment and find the solutions, the support. Yes. Not the person is not your solution. Nobody outside of you is your solution, but you need the support to get to the solution. Yeah. I love that. So with that being said, an amazing conversation. Kristi, thank you so much for being here with me today. I have learned a lot and pointed out a lot of my type a little tendencies here and there. But before we go, we have a tradition on the podcast called The Book Drop, and we want to know what book has impacted you either personally or professionally. Okay, well if I may, I'm gonna do two. Oh, that's it. Extend my reading list even more. I love it. So the first book is called The Four Tendencies, Gretchen. Do you know that one? I haven't read that one. No. She wrote The Happiness Project. Okay, I know The Happiness. Yeah. So she has a secondary book. It's called The Four Tendencies. Okay. So I recommend all my type a's, all my business owners, everybody who is struggling, raising that really difficult child. Mm-hmm. To take a look at that book and read it as, it's like a personality typing, but it's, it doesn't take three years to get through. It gives you some really insights and that has really changed and really helped a lot of my clients. And I really like it. I recommend it to everyone. Interesting. Okay. Beautiful. And what was the other one? It's a book called The Red Lion, so it's kind of hard to find. Have you read this one? I haven't, no. But now I'm intrigued because like it's hard to find and so my Type A personality is going, right, A challenge. Let's find the Red Lion. Yeah, it's hard to find. It was written by a woman during the communist era and I think she was a Hungarian, and so it was blacklisted, but it's this really kind of interesting story about this guy who finds the elixir of life. Mm-hmm. And. Is reincarnated until he gets to the place. But it's like historical. So there's some historical accuracy and some fiction and I thought it was profound book. Yeah, very cool. I love the unique ones that get thrown in here. Thank you so much for spending your time with me today, Kristy, and your wisdom with our viewers, and I'm sure we'll be speaking again soon. Hope to thank you. Thanks for tuning into the Teryn Reeves Show. If today's episode litter firing you, share it with someone who needs to hear it and don't forget to subscribe so you never miss a story that could transform your business. If you're ready to write the book that positions you as the go-to authority in your industry, visit automatic authority.com to find out how we can help you make it happen. Until next time, keep owning your story, leading with impact and building a legacy.